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Re: Islam Is Not a Peaceful Religion

Tinct — Sun, 09 Aug 2009 17:17:21 -0000

Also: much of what you just quoted can be found in the Koran itself. Are you sure you're Muslim?

Re: Islam Is Not a Peaceful Religion

Tinct — Sun, 09 Aug 2009 17:10:44 -0000

And the fact that you won't stand for anybody criticizing your religion, a freedom every human being has (freedom of speech) is none too reassuring.

Re: Islam Is Not a Peaceful Religion

Tinct — Sun, 09 Aug 2009 17:07:56 -0000

Sounds like you don't know all that much about your own religion. Try opening a history book for once instead of a religious one.

You're living in the past, my friend. Where other religions have caused destruction, they've since learned to amend their violent ways. There are relatively little to no people these days who kill explicitly in the name of Christianity, Hinduism, Judaism, etc. Meanwhile, people have and STILL DO kill others in the name of Islam.

When Christian fundamentalists say something stupid, like "all schools should be made Christian again" (the name of the quote's author escapes me), Christian moderates are swift to speak up, denounce what he said, and demand an apology from him. This is why I don't worry about Christian fundamentalism, because I know the Christian moderates will always keep it in check.

Muslim moderates, on the other hand, have done a piddling job in this department.

"I don’t understand why everyone thinks Islam is a violent religion, when there is so much destruction that other religions have done in the past. But for some reason, I see that people have forgotten about those and turned against Islam."

If it's too much work for you to organize a group of your Muslim peers and speak out loud enough against Islamic terror acts, then maybe you're in the wrong religion. It doesn't sound like you care that much about it, if you're of the mind that speaking out won't do anything (which is heinously erroneous). Idle hands are the devil's workshop.

Of course, there's always the possibility that you actually encourage these acts of Islamic terror. As you said, you're not all that interested in making the effort to publicly denounce these acts. If you're too lazy to go out, speak up against Islamic terror, and show people Islam is not completely full of genocidal xenaphobes, then you have nobody to blame but yourself when people think all of Islam is violent. Because until you do something about it, they are 100% correct. After all, "Silence is consent".

Stop placing the blame on other people and take responsibility for your religion.

Re: Islam Is Not a Peaceful Religion

someone — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:02:45 -0000

Also, I believe you were the one who had posted lies about Prophet Muhammad earlier. "Mohammed was a genocidal war mongerer who utilized Islam as a political tool (because that’s what Islam truly is at its foundation) in order to gain followers and silence dissenters. He waged many wars in his lifetime, married a girl when she was 6 and had sex with her at 9, was responsible for many, many deaths, and certainly did not birth Islam out of peace."
Why simply make up lies about someone's Prophet? What good will this do besides make a Muslim angry?

Re: Islam Is Not a Peaceful Religion

someone — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:53:29 -0000

Excuse me, but even if we did speak out, you tell me, you really think that will do any good? you think that when someone does something appalling, it becomes as easy as speaking out to get it over with? Also, tell me this, when you asked, "Why haven’t you been standing up and speaking out against the some 13,500+ acts of terrorism your extremists counterparts have perpetrated since 9/11?," are we NOT speaking up against the acts of terrorism? If this is what your saying, then I don't think you have any idea how hard most Muslims are trying to go against the acts of terrorism.
Besides all this, I don't understand why everyone thinks Islam is a violent religion, when there is so much destruction that other religions have done in the past. But for some reason, I see that people have forgotten about those and turned against Islam.

Re: Islam Is Not a Peaceful Religion

Tinct — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 18:35:34 -0000

Someone:

You call yourself a peaceful Muslim and then tell someone "how dare you" for criticizing your religion (which is different from insulting it)- a right that any human being has. You don't have to like it when someone criticizes Islam, but you should recognize that someone has the freedom to do so.

Also, please answer me on this: where have all you peaceful Muslims been? Why haven't you been standing up and speaking out against the some 13,500+ acts of terrorism your extremists counterparts have perpetrated since 9/11? Silence is consent, my friend. Your extremist brethren are making a bad name for you, and you're doing nothing to renounce it or show that your kind are ACTUALLY peaceful. So don't blame someone for thinking that Islam is a violent religion when you've done nothing to make them think otherwise.

Re: Islam Is Not a Peaceful Religion

someone — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:25:56 -0000

how can you insult Islam like that? i am a true muslim, and i believe it is a very peaceful religion, you see we HAVE a system of prayers which makes it peaceful. we care for our Holy Book the Quran. anyway,after reading the Quran, i can gurantee that it allows no violence. and when writing articles try not to ask the extreme muslims, of course they highly believe in Islam. that is like me asking christian priests what they think of christianity. and dont dare to insult Prophet Muhammad pbuh for he was no genocidal war mongerer. if only all of you asses could understand the amazing things he had done. if you knew about the history of Islam, you wouldnt be making up all of this bullshit about my religion.

Re: Islam Is Not a Peaceful Religion

Andall — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:26:53 -0000

Hi JJ,I apologise for getting narked, in the comment I gave that is missing I supplied about 6 links with it and when I submitted the comment it appeared, but now it has gone(I should have been clearer).
I didn't know about needing to use the email address or forum, I apologise for the error.
In regards to the comment regarding the ira, it was in response to Tinct who said that he had never heard of them, and I wished to prove that there are christian terror organisations as well as muslim ones, that was all.
Once again, I apologise for my earlier comment,
yours, Andall. =)

Re: Islam Is Not a Peaceful Religion

JJ — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 04:59:56 -0000

@Andall, nobody has removed your comments. The only reason that comments sometimes might not show up immediately is if you include more than 15 hyperlinks in your comment in which case it must be approved by the staff, but I don't know maybe your browser didn't submit it correctly last time?

Anyway, please address such questions to the email address or forum thanks.

Please keep responses here on topic! =)

Re: Islam Is Not a Peaceful Religion

Andall — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:53:13 -0000

Can someone tell me what's going on with this site, yesterday I put a response on for Tinct and it has dissappeared, I had replied to his comment regarding radical and provided several links regarding the IRA, yet today I come on and they have gone, is someone removing my commentary for some reason (possibly regarding the ira) or is there some kind of problem with uploading comments, if it's uploading, can someone please sort it out, if it's moderators removing my comments, why, have I offended you somehow by telling the truth about the ira scum who murder innocent men, women and children, along with all the other nasty shit they do? If that's the case then this site should be called One View Only, or some crap like that.

Yours Andall.

P.S. I hope this is just an error as I have enjoyed this site and would hate for it to have tunnel vision.

Re: Islam Is Not a Peaceful Religion

Tinct — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 00:37:03 -0000

Andall: No, my mistake again. Now that I read the comment you quoted, it is supposed to be 'radical'. I was being very sarcastic, since you couldn't tell.

Re: Islam Is Not a Peaceful Religion

Tinct — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 00:35:58 -0000

Andall: That's supposed to be 'moderate', then.

If you're going to participate in a debate, you should have your information ready at your disposal, as it's your job, not mine, to make your points. If you can't provide the information necessary to refute my points, then I'm sorry, but that sounds more like laziness on your part.

No, I have not heard about the IRA. Tell me more about them.

Re: Islam Is Not a Peaceful Religion

Andall — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 00:25:41 -0000

Your words,

Tinct says:
March 11, 2009 at 10:05 pm

I recently had a conversation with a Muslim radical, a real eye-opener

As regards christian terrorist organisations, I cannot believe you have never heard of the IRA, as regards not being bothered to look, well i'm sorry but that's lazy and hypocritical of you, especially given that you will hunt down info on muslims, if you are going to make an informed opinion on something then you should check as many facts as possible otherwise you end up with tunnel vision and that is often a bad mistake in most things.

Re: Islam Is Not a Peaceful Religion

Babble — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:51:12 -0000

Tinct I would suggest reading on the teachings of Mohammad and the time line those teachings were given. I do agree with you on his motivations, It's just that his original methods were failing so he changed his tact. A good example of my statement would be his teaching on how to deal with Christians and how he later said just the opposite of those things.

Re: Islam Is Not a Peaceful Religion

Tinct — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:43:21 -0000

babble: I don't know where you read that Islam was born out of peace/ had peaceful origins, but nothing is farther from the truth. Mohammed was a genocidal war mongerer who utilized Islam as a political tool (because that's what Islam truly is at its foundation) in order to gain followers and silence dissenters. He waged many wars in his lifetime, married a girl when she was 6 and had sex with her at 9, was responsible for many, many deaths, and certainly did not birth Islam out of peace.

Many of the Qur'ans violent tenets are situational ("Dissenters of Islam will have molten lead poured into their ears") rather than general, but the problem with many Muslims today is that they don't understand this.

Re: Islam Is Not a Peaceful Religion

Tinct — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:38:44 -0000

Andall: "According to you in an earlier statement, it was a radical muslim, which is quite different from your average muslim."

I don't recall saying this; it was most definitely not a radical Muslim, but a Jew turned Christian turned Muslim. He is most moderate. If I said otherwise, it was mistake.

As for your links, you're going to have to be more specific in where you direct me. Giving me a terrorist group search engine or a general list of all terrorist groups in the world is too much trouble for me to bother with. In the links that actually had information in them, I didn't see any terrorist groups based purposefully on the Christian or Jewish faith. Find these for me (if they exist) and I'll gladly read them.

Re: Islam Is Not a Peaceful Religion

babble — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:22:12 -0000

In the Christian Bible there is violence, however in the case of war it refers to a specific time and place. It does not say anywhere that we are to kill anyone who does not believe. Those who commit acts of violence in the name of Jesus are not following the teachings of Jesus. Jesus said to live by the sword is to die by the sword. I could go on but that is irrelevant. We all agree, myself included that many have committed horrendous acts in the name of the Christian God.

Islam is different Because in the beginning of it's origins it was peaceful. As it progressed however it became increasingly violent. Most of this is due to the fact that Mohammad was not successful in converting others to his beliefs.

i could go more in depth but I would be writing about the history of both faiths for the next two hours or so and I just really want to do that.

Re: Islam Is Not a Peaceful Religion

Andall — Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:32:13 -0000

To Tinct, you say "There are no Christians or Jews today walking around killing people for the sole reason of not being Jewish/Christian, for suspicion of adultery, for being a certain religion, etc", i'm sorry but you are wrong, here are a few links to get you started(note, some are erroneous, but the point is still valid).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
http://www.start.umd.edu/st...
http://www.cdi.org/terroris...
http://www.militaryphotos.n...
http://www.amazon.com/Non-M...
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What that inane saying means, as explained to me by a religious Muslim, is that once everyone submits to Islam, there will be peace. Since we have not submitted yet, there will continue to be killing, and it’s our fault.
According to you in an earlier statement, it was a radical muslim, which is quite different from your average muslim.

Re: Islam Is Not a Peaceful Religion

Tinct — Sat, 11 Apr 2009 22:57:09 -0000

RDT:

"if you pick and choose in the various versions of the bible you can come up with pretty much the same things, anything taken out of context can be made to look bad or good so that is why you must take things in their entirity otherwise you show a false picture to the world."

True, but this is a tired argument I hear all the time. Yes, Christianity and even Judaism have some violent doctrines in them. But the difference between them and Islam? There are no Christians or Jews today walking around killing people for the sole reason of not being Jewish/Christian, for suspicion of adultery, for being a certain religion, etc. This mindless and bloodthirsty behavior stopped a long time ago in the context of Christianity and Judaism. They have learned to ignore most if not all of these violent tenets.

However, there untold numbers of Muslims committing these heinous crimes to this day. In the past year, there have been at least two cases (to my knowledge) of a Muslim killing his wife/daughter in the US. In the US!

It is very possible those words are in the Qur'an. In fact, they are in there. Don't buy into the "Islam is a religion of peace" bullshit; just because a religion preaches peace does not excuse the violence it also preaches. What that inane saying means, as explained to me by a religious Muslim, is that once everyone submits to Islam, there will be peace. Since we have not submitted yet, there will continue to be killing, and it's our fault.

Re: Islam Is Not a Peaceful Religion

RDT — Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:38:33 -0000

To, Tinct, while it is entirely possible that those words appear in the qur'an, you must also remember that if you pick and choose in the various versions of the bible you can come up with pretty much the same things, anything taken out of context can be made to look bad or good so that is why you must take things in their entirity otherwise you show a false picture to the world. One thing I believe is that any religion is dangerous, especially in the hands of the unintelligent, the closedminded and the ignorant.

Re: Islam Is Not a Peaceful Religion

Anonymous — Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:39:54 -0000

For someone like you to actually make an effort, and start a topic to hate on Islam means you're messed up, there's no point in arguin' with you because you'll never take your head outta your ass, not trying to be rude, But I'm not here to offend your relegion "If you have one", I'm here to defend mine, I have a brain too, And if I thought my relegion wasnt right or poinltess for a second, why you think i'll stick to it?

I have no idea where you're gettin' your resources from, i'm sure it's not from the Qu'ran tho, Take my advice, It won't hurt, go open it and read it good, and don't explain it the way you want to, understand it right, and then come and talk.

Re: Islam Is Not a Peaceful Religion

Tinct — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 17:39:28 -0000

//What do you call what’s going in in Phalestine, Killin’ all these women and kids//

You just won Ignorant Statement of the Year. If you honestly believe the retaliatory attacks Israel launches against Hamas are about religion, you have no place acting like you know anything about the conflict. Unless you're referring to the fact that Hamas kills a lot of Palestinians not only through using them as human shields and suicide bombers but outright killing them for dancing and singing at weddings, adultery, showing any Israel tolerance, etc. etc.

//and just because some “Muslims” did a few terrible things, doesnt mean it’s Islam’s fault, cause clearly Islam doesnt say that//

Clearly Islam does preach violence, my ignorant friend:

"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful."
Qur’an 9:5

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
Qur’an 9:29

"Those who reject (Truth), among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures."
Qur’an 98:6

"O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust." Qur’an 5:51

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya [tax for being a non-Muslim] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
Qur’an 9:29

Just because it also preaches peace does not excuse its genocidal doctrines. I'd advise you to actually open your Qur'an and read a few passages from it before you follow it so blindly. Why are you even posting on this topic when you obviously know nothing about it? Begone with you.

Re: Islam Is Not a Peaceful Religion

Anonymous — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 06:59:54 -0000

When you're born, you automaticly take your parents relegion, either it's Islam, christnaity, or bein' a jew, It doesn't mean you'll follow it, and just because some "Muslims" did a few terrible things, doesnt mean it's Islam's fault, cause clearly Islam doesnt say that, If you say we encourage violence..What do you call what's going in in Phalestine, Killin' all these women and kids, I like the way you're trying to convince your self so bad that you're right, but if you wanna be smart, go learn about it, The right way, and then come and discuss it.

Re: Islam Is Not a Peaceful Religion

cosmo RO OHIO — Sun, 05 Apr 2009 23:56:27 -0000

religion was used to make ppl believe that its the right thing to do, like the terrorist are told that by killing they get what they want after life, lol i wish i would see their disappointed faces after they gave their life for nothing. i think i would kill myself after i would be a dead terrorist. hahahah
i kinda agree with Ghulam Hussain. lets just all commit suicide at once. even the governments want us dead cause nature has more rights than us. look at where we are today, smarter than yesterday??? i dont think so, we just go into deep shit. sooner or later we will have to realize that we are loosing. all of us will wake up at reality even those who are mentally challenged will see that its over. so lets just wait till its too late.
or we could start a world restoration. if my neighbor is a terrorist i will take him down myself before he starts a chaos. if we all work together nothing is impossible.

Re: Islam Is Not a Peaceful Religion

Anonymous — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 09:19:13 -0000

tinct you nailed it on the head. he must be calling himself sieg heil to hide the fact he's a islamist jihadi. lets hope he blows himself up trying to make a bomb. i'll pray he is the only one gets hurt.
what i think we need is for the governments of the world to sit down and figure out whats best for all people regardless of country. i do realize this won't happen but it does not change the fact that this is what we need.