very strong ind33d__* I refuse to excuse faulty science and media hype with a sense of duty*___________ w0w! now that's str8 up fact (above) u-r not liking me JJ ? I'm offended by you JJ merely because you haven't responded to anything I've said. I'm truly hurt by your inability to act upon my words of encouragement JJ....I'm telling your mommy! I will not suPPort nor respond to any of your writings NO MORE JJ........................ :( ...........................
hurt again rebeKah
SoTrue
· 11 months ago
So true. Look at the facts in "The great global warming swindle" (documentary). That has a lot of arguments again Co2 being the cause of global warming is just a big media hype
LOL. Uh oh, somebody just quoted the Discovery Channel. Shakin' in my boots. I checked the first link and after a few sentences and scare tactics, I came across this threat:
"Any significant thaw of Antarctica could drown many coastal cities and delta regions. Bigger than Australia, Antarctica holds enough ice to raise global sea levels by 185 feet."
...and THEN... I stopped reading. What a joke lol. WATER WORLD!!!
Unknown??
· 11 months ago
JJ is a fool
JJ
· 11 months ago
"He who will not reason is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; and he who dares not is a slave." - Sir William Drummond
No, my friend. Regurgitating data from media sources without any second thoughts or exploration is much more "foolish." Stop contributing to media scare tactics.
Craig
· 11 months ago
Those who quote statistics in regard to the probability of MMGW actually occurring are presenting a misleading argument. As any statistician would tell you, actual statistical representation can present itself only when all variables are known (e.g. in a bag containing 3 white marbles and 1 black, there is a 1 in 4 chance that the black marble will be picked) or, in exercise's in logic (all men are mortal, if David is a man, then I can say with 100% certainty that he is mortal). Obviously the latter does not apply. And the former? Well, only if climate modelers are claiming that have totally nailed down all the variables to account for, when it comes to determining climate (they are not). So where exactly is the science in 90%? Man Made Global Warming advocates will still continue to bang their drums for a long time as it is a belief which welcomes a whole host of other beliefs, from political, to social, even religious. Question such adherents on the science behind MMGW and you are questioning them on these other beliefs, which they are of course heavily invested in. I mean ask yourself, would you see such denunciations of evil, such fanatical trashing of character, occur in a debate over the mating habits of the African fruit fly? Incidentally, the whole 11 of the last 12 years is bollocks. The hockey stick graph trumpeted so fervently by its adherents has been wholly discredited.
irish eyes are open
· 11 months ago
i love when they show icebergs melting, with the doomsday music playing in the background in these pro global warming documentaries. don't they realise that ice shelves retreat every single summer? and can someone tell me how antarctica will melt if temps change from -40 degrees to -39?!
i remember years ago there was a scare that the world was going to cool dangerously fast. should we have flooded our atmosphere with greenhouse gases then to save ourselves? the greenhouse effect is what has sustained life on this planet, who are we to say that it is now a destructive force? i've seen no evidence of warming, but if there is perhaps this is simply the natural path for the planet to take. how much greenhouse gas does a volcano produce? or decaying vegetation? or the ocean for that matter?!
yes by the way, water vapour is a greenhouse gas. quick, ban the oceans! and while you're at it, lets delight the politicians further by putting a carbon tax on all humans, as we are all just greenhouse gas emitting engines really. all that co2, methane and water vapour we produce can only destroy the world, eh? i'm sure that makes perfect sense to some people. i wonder did al gore use a canoe to travel the world promoting his movie...
i'll never forget the smile on british prime minister gordon browns face when he publicly announced the opening of 6 new nuclear plants in britain. he said they were a clean source of power as they don't produce co2, exactly what thatchers government was trying to do when they first came up with this whole climate change theory back in the 80's. but back then, people were still too afraid of nuclear and all its complications so the idea never took hold. different story now sadly.
it doesn't seem to matter that methane is destroyed in the atmosphere by electrical storm activity. it doesn't seem to matter that co2 is heavier than air and therefore doesn't stay in the upper atmosphere, it is dissolved in the oceans. this planet can cope with meteor strikes and asteroid collisions, global killers like the one 65 million years ago. do you really think we are going to doom it by driving your car to the shops?!
it scares me when i hear the hysteria from the climate change terrorists, they brand you a heretic when you disagree. after all, coldplay, josh hartnett and al gore can't be wrong eh?
JJ
· 11 months ago
@ craig + irish eyes are open...
Haha, touche boys. It's so refreshing to hear intelligent people see through the lies and trickery. Especially so many readers from Europe... you guys don't realize, half of Americans believe this shit cuz they think everyone in Europe does and we gotta be "more like progressive Europe"... well, hold your breath for the next 8 years while Obama tries to grant their wishes... I'm sure another speech is due in Berlin about climate change! lol
irish eyes are open
· 11 months ago
it would be good to get away from using oil, but only because the oil producing states have us over a barrel (forgive the pun). if we can produce equal, or close to equal, performance from renewable energy then i'm all for it. if the air powered car ever sees the light of day then i'll be there to buy it straight away!
it just seems so wrong what they are doing now, there are such serious repercussions to the actions of these climate change fundamentalists. africa is being crucified, having renewable energy foisted on them when they need fossil fuels to develop like we did. you can cover a house roof in solar cells in africa but it'll still only produce enough power to run a lightbulb or two, the powers that be in the developed world know this. thats why they offer africa a share of their carbon credits, which they have spare now that they are fully developed, in exchange for...?
africas fossil fuels. its a vicious cycle where the first world gets well while the third world gets raped. where are geldof and bono on the issue? backing the developed world of course, africas plight keeps them busy i guess. this is a political travesty disguised as a effort to save humanity. it makes me sick, and the people have become such willing pawns in their games.
thought
· 11 months ago
Whether or not global warming/cooling is or is not going to happen is irrelevant, at the end of it all the truth is that we are all on one planet that we and our decendants have to live on, so surely trying to keep it in good condition is intelligent. Use recycleable materials, use cleaner energy sources and tidy up all the crap that we have dumped everywhere, after all if you went home and found that you had to keep all you garbage within the boundaries of your own property you would not like it and pretty soon you would try to find a way of reusing it or disposing in a safe and usable manner. I'm fairly sure that you wouldn't want to have to take every kilo of your own fecal matter with you every time you moved house never mind all the gallons of urine, and that's before we even start on food and drink byproducts, wrappers containers, old appliances, etc
JJ
· 11 months ago
@ thought...
Actually it is relevant, to many things. And like I said in my article:
"I care deeply for the environment, but I refuse to excuse faulty science and media hype with a sense of duty."
If the global warming movement helps people care more the earth, thats awesome. But tricking people, lying to people, and implementing all kinds of policies and cultures based on those lies is WRONG.
thought
· 11 months ago
I understand your view, but frankly no matter what proof comes to light there will always be those who say it's a lie. A simple example of this is that for years the oil industry were denying the existance of clean energy and all of the time they were suppressing proof of clean energy and deriding anyone who claimed it could be done, now they're using clean energy sources and hailing themselves as the saviours of the planet. I'm sure that mixed in amongst all the data out there, there will be some that shows what is really happening, because frankly with all of the crap that we are dumping into the ground, and waters and the air we must quite clearly be having some detrimental effect on at least some parts of the enviroment. Sometimes a good scare can wake people up and even if that particular part shows to be wrong, then at least if the person has enough intelligence they can then take a further look into it and find out what's really going on. Sometimes the truth is ignored because it's not exciting enough, whereas a really good lie can work wonders, take a look at some of the propagada that was used during WWII (Winston Churchill about disinformation around the D-Day invasion. "Sometimes the truth is so precious it must be accompanied by a bodyguard of lies).
Barry Artiste
· 10 months ago
Don't tell Al Gore that, he is used to having that Nobel Prize around!
Anonymous
· 8 months ago
i've been telling everyone i know that "Global Warming" is fake. it's funny to watch people freaking out over something that's never going to happen.
we have the same damn cold winters, with the same damn amount of snow. don't see no "Global Warming" affecting me.
next they'll say it's "Global Cooling". :/
btw, i watch Discovery channel as if it were Comedy Central.
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w0w! now that's str8 up fact (above)
u-r not liking me JJ ? I'm offended by you JJ merely because you haven't responded to anything I've said. I'm truly hurt by your inability to act upon my words of encouragement JJ....I'm telling your mommy! I will not suPPort nor respond to any of your writings NO MORE JJ........................ :( ...........................
hurt again
rebeKah
http://dsc.discovery.com/guides/discovery-earth...
LOL. Uh oh, somebody just quoted the Discovery Channel. Shakin' in my boots. I checked the first link and after a few sentences and scare tactics, I came across this threat:
"Any significant thaw of Antarctica could drown many coastal cities and delta regions. Bigger than Australia, Antarctica holds enough ice to raise global sea levels by 185 feet."
...and THEN... I stopped reading. What a joke lol. WATER WORLD!!!
- Sir William Drummond
No, my friend. Regurgitating data from media sources without any second thoughts or exploration is much more "foolish." Stop contributing to media scare tactics.
Man Made Global Warming advocates will still continue to bang their drums for a long time as it is a belief which welcomes a whole host of other beliefs, from political, to social, even religious. Question such adherents on the science behind MMGW and you are questioning them on these other beliefs, which they are of course heavily invested in. I mean ask yourself, would you see such denunciations of evil, such fanatical trashing of character, occur in a debate over the mating habits of the African fruit fly?
Incidentally, the whole 11 of the last 12 years is bollocks. The hockey stick graph trumpeted so fervently by its adherents has been wholly discredited.
i remember years ago there was a scare that the world was going to cool dangerously fast. should we have flooded our atmosphere with greenhouse gases then to save ourselves? the greenhouse effect is what has sustained life on this planet, who are we to say that it is now a destructive force? i've seen no evidence of warming, but if there is perhaps this is simply the natural path for the planet to take. how much greenhouse gas does a volcano produce? or decaying vegetation? or the ocean for that matter?!
yes by the way, water vapour is a greenhouse gas. quick, ban the oceans! and while you're at it, lets delight the politicians further by putting a carbon tax on all humans, as we are all just greenhouse gas emitting engines really. all that co2, methane and water vapour we produce can only destroy the world, eh? i'm sure that makes perfect sense to some people. i wonder did al gore use a canoe to travel the world promoting his movie...
i'll never forget the smile on british prime minister gordon browns face when he publicly announced the opening of 6 new nuclear plants in britain. he said they were a clean source of power as they don't produce co2, exactly what thatchers government was trying to do when they first came up with this whole climate change theory back in the 80's. but back then, people were still too afraid of nuclear and all its complications so the idea never took hold. different story now sadly.
it doesn't seem to matter that methane is destroyed in the atmosphere by electrical storm activity. it doesn't seem to matter that co2 is heavier than air and therefore doesn't stay in the upper atmosphere, it is dissolved in the oceans. this planet can cope with meteor strikes and asteroid collisions, global killers like the one 65 million years ago. do you really think we are going to doom it by driving your car to the shops?!
it scares me when i hear the hysteria from the climate change terrorists, they brand you a heretic when you disagree. after all, coldplay, josh hartnett and al gore can't be wrong eh?
Haha, touche boys. It's so refreshing to hear intelligent people see through the lies and trickery. Especially so many readers from Europe... you guys don't realize, half of Americans believe this shit cuz they think everyone in Europe does and we gotta be "more like progressive Europe"... well, hold your breath for the next 8 years while Obama tries to grant their wishes... I'm sure another speech is due in Berlin about climate change! lol
it just seems so wrong what they are doing now, there are such serious repercussions to the actions of these climate change fundamentalists. africa is being crucified, having renewable energy foisted on them when they need fossil fuels to develop like we did. you can cover a house roof in solar cells in africa but it'll still only produce enough power to run a lightbulb or two, the powers that be in the developed world know this. thats why they offer africa a share of their carbon credits, which they have spare now that they are fully developed, in exchange for...?
africas fossil fuels. its a vicious cycle where the first world gets well while the third world gets raped. where are geldof and bono on the issue? backing the developed world of course, africas plight keeps them busy i guess. this is a political travesty disguised as a effort to save humanity. it makes me sick, and the people have become such willing pawns in their games.
Actually it is relevant, to many things. And like I said in my article:
"I care deeply for the environment, but I refuse to excuse faulty science and media hype with a sense of duty."
If the global warming movement helps people care more the earth, thats awesome. But tricking people, lying to people, and implementing all kinds of policies and cultures based on those lies is WRONG.
we have the same damn cold winters, with the same damn amount of snow. don't see no "Global Warming" affecting me.
next they'll say it's "Global Cooling". :/
btw, i watch Discovery channel as if it were Comedy Central.